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February 26, 2015
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Google Tag Manager and Munchkin Code question

  • February 26, 2015
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So we've been having issues lately with other domains stealing our Munchkin Code. It seems as though a couple of domains had stolen our skin.js from our source code and deployed it on their website, inadvertantly taking our Munchkin Code as a result. Because of this, our analytics and reporting was all out of loop, filled with websites and data that we didnt' really care for.

So this leads me to Googel Tag Manager. The way GTM works, you use a "firing" rule to tell the tag exactly which pages to deploy the tag, in this case we could control specifically where the GTM tag is being called without having to worry about another domain stealing our code (in the future, it won't effect those who already have our code).

So I guess that leads me to my question - is this a recommended solution to prevent future domains/webmasters from snatching our Munchkin Code? We've talked to a few Marketo support specialists concerning this stolen munchkin issue but no one has been able to give us a conclusive answer. We've been suffering from broken analytics and reporting since last November and would really like to get back on track moving forward.

Thanks.

Best answer by Mikes_Jones
Sanford also - if you could take that photo down when you get a chance, would be appreciated. Thanks

EDIT: Ah, I found it - well then, guess it doesn't matter if you take that picture down or not.

Thanks for all your input, definitely nice to learn something new.

Accidentally clicked "best answer", I didn't know it would mark the case as solved. For the record, case is not solved.

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Anonymous
July 2, 2015

Hi All,

After submitting a similar question to support and being told this isn't currently possible. I have added a suggestion to add a functionality that would allow us to A) run a report of all the websites our munchkin appears on and B) have some kind of way to clean up or stop tracking from places where the use is unauthorized. 

Please vote it up so we can get this added to the roadmap.

    Mikes_Jones
    Mikes_JonesAuthor
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    July 2, 2015

    Thanks Jana Lass​ for adding the suggestion - I will definitely upvote it and hope it gains from traction, would definitely help with reliable data!

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    Anonymous
    July 2, 2015

    If you have any other members of your team with Marketo access that could help vote it up, feel free to pass it around. I am trying to get it up voted as quickly as possible as this has been a huge issue for us as well.

    Mikes_Jones
    Mikes_JonesAuthor
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    February 27, 2015
    I will pass that information on to our web team, again, thanks a bunch.
      SanfordWhiteman
      SanfordWhiteman
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      February 27, 2015
      @Malik Z I'd recommend that you add something like JavaScript wrapper that I posted.   I'll point it out to our own web team as well.  Even better, wrap it in a function called something like reportStolenHTML(){}.  I think 99% of copycats would delete that entire section if they saw that.
      Mikes_Jones
      Mikes_JonesAuthorAccepted solution
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      February 27, 2015
      Sanford also - if you could take that photo down when you get a chance, would be appreciated. Thanks

      EDIT: Ah, I found it - well then, guess it doesn't matter if you take that picture down or not.

      Thanks for all your input, definitely nice to learn something new.

      Accidentally clicked "best answer", I didn't know it would mark the case as solved. For the record, case is not solved.
      SanfordWhiteman
      SanfordWhiteman
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      February 27, 2015
      @Malik Z I found the code by checking Web Inspector in Chrome (EDIT: yes, on your special test page) -- and you'll see it if you Save the page as well.  

      When you save a page, you get the full markup as it looked when you hit Save, rather than the static markup that first comes from the server.  To be honest it wasn't any harder.  I don't think a dedicated copycat is using View Source, they're saving the page, maybe via a special spidering tool instead of a browser.

      I think we are ultimately on the same side here.  The feature should exist.  It's just that I am less surprised than you and @Michael R, since I know that Marketo's ease-of-use (such as it is!) is aided by not mandating that users add filters.
      Mikes_Jones
      Mikes_JonesAuthor
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      February 27, 2015
      Thanks for the input Sanford, not sure how you found that code, but then again I'm not as technical as you are. Though, I think we can both agree, that using GTM makes it a little bit harder to take the code - but there's no doubt in my mind that a motivated individual could definitely find it if they wanted too.

      Hope Marketo fixes/addresses this one day 😉

      EDIT: Also, just to be clear, I do realize the munchkin code is being deployed on our main page - I was only using the LP as an example - but if you were able to find the munchkin code in the Landing Page that I posted, then yes, pretty cool.
      SanfordWhiteman
      SanfordWhiteman
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      February 27, 2015
      And when I scrape the page, I see this.  Your Munchkin code.

      Look, I'm not trying to get into a contest.  The reality is that the unwanted hits would have to be discarded by Marketo's servers, which means in turn there needs to be a UI to enter all your domains.  I agree this feature should be added, but at the same time I'm not shocked that there was no filtering before, because I know there was no place to enter the filter.
      Mikes_Jones
      Mikes_JonesAuthor
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      February 27, 2015
      Sanford

      The following template has Munchkin DISABLED, the Munchkin Code is being pulled in soley through Google Tag Manager.

      pages.r2integrated.com/TEST_TEST_munchkin.html

      Now, I checked the page source and could not locate any instances to the munchkin code, only the Google Tag code. Thoughts?
      SanfordWhiteman
      SanfordWhiteman
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      February 27, 2015
      Add Munchkin via GTM.  That is what you should be testing.  (GTM has a special plugin for GA, which means that is not an appropriate testbed.)

      Technical rule: any elements injected into your markup can be scraped.  It's just a fact of browser life.
      Mikes_Jones
      Mikes_JonesAuthor
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      February 27, 2015
      Sanford, can you please elloborate on the GTM code and whether it's in teh markup or not?

      Here is our website: www.r2integrated.com

      When you view the page source, you will see a GTM tag. Within that tag is a Google Analytics tag, but you won't see that in the markup of the page source ... unless it's there, and I just don't see it. Let me know if you can find it :)
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